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Rekon X
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Posted - 2013.10.28 21:33:00 -
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WOW is a good game. But playing Warcraft before WOW probably helped. I started playing Dec 04 and I think it was a lot better when it was first released and everyone was leveling up. There was a lot more people willing to group up and do areas together.
I started EVE about 10 months later, played for 3 months and went back to WOW. Mostly because in Dec 05 they changed the game font and it was just to much of a hassle trying to read things such as null sec systems and market data. Returned to EVE about 2 years ago for about 3 months. Back again, had a special offer, but probably not for long.
So I spent about 6x more time playing WOW as I have Eve.
WOW does seem to be kind of on the decline and I think you missed the best parts of the game.
What I like is the ignorant ones that are bashing the last expansion with introducing pandas, when they really came from warcraft 3, not WOW.
http://classic.battle.net/war3/pandaren/
Doubt there will be another game that I will spend as much time playing as I have WOW. |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.28 21:36:00 -
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Jack Hayson wrote:Sooo much bias in this thread from people that never touched any of the hard content in WoW...
Cause they think, somehow it makes them kewl. It really just proves ignorance.
I've done raids, and a lot of pvp in wow and I loved it. Especially the original Alterac Valley. Wish there was a way to get that back. |

Rekon X
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Posted - 2013.10.28 21:47:00 -
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Gogela wrote:If CCP had a WoW budget and a better understanding of the draw of their own game, I think the numbers in EvE would dwarf WoW, pun intended.
Not likely. There has only been 1 real expansion in this game in the 10 years of existence. They wouldn't know what to do with it. |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 01:52:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:1. In terms of quality, Wow beats EVE into the dirt, no comparison here (the reason is that Blizzard is a financial powerhouse and this allowed them to spend like crazy on wow, whereas, EVE gimps along not even covering broken core game mechanic costs because the player base is so small).
2. in terms of pvp, you will have to get used to a much faster rate of game play, you can get away without hotkey usage in EVE because it plays so slowly but if you want to even remotely be competitive in wow pvp you better have 20 fingers and 50 hotkeys or you're dead before you even start.
3. You will probably learn to prefer the leveling model to the Skill point model if you play a lot since you can level up to max level in days rather than years.
4. i suggest a pvp server if you do play it is more like EVE in that you can be killed almost anywhere.
5. you will miss PLEX if you pay for your account this way, there is no game legal way to do this in wow.
6. the pvp between EVE and Wow follows a similar model, so much so that you can almost equate some ships in eve with classes in wow.
7. If you like the intrigue of EVE, you will miss that as wow really doesnt have anything like it.
8. You will find that the average wow forum poster is more flexible, intelligent and articulate than the idiot lot that tends to post in EVEs forums, i was absolutely stunned by this when i first started reading and posting on the EVE forums.
9. Blizzard does a much better job of balancing the needs of all of its player base than EVE does. Eve tends to strongly favor huge alliances and it seems they intend to push the game even further that direction in the future.
10. As to economies: Wow has a much better auction house, the only thing about EVE's market that i prefer is that you cannot flood the market with as many things as you like unless you start making alts to do so because of the skills that limit how many active orders you can have in EVE; whereas, in Wow you can place as many as you want.
Also, you mention burdensome restrictions on transferring assets around the various wow realms, yes this is an issue and comes with both real money costs as well as game money limits. You can beat a lot of this issue by transferring assets instead of game currency. Also, wow has a currency limit per account but again using assets you can bypass the so called 'gold cap'.
11. About the subscription differences: EVE is more hostile and this turns off a lot of players, EVE also is harder to learn how to play, mostly because the EVE dev team is inept. The EVE UI feels like it is 20 years old and this may turn off players used to more modern gaming UI's.
The EVE universe is mostly the same solar system copy and pasted 1000 times; whereas, WOW has richly unique gaming environments. All MMOs have ongoing balance issues to deal with but EVE suffers from broken core game mechanics, the only issue that WOW has that is even remotely similar is its ongoing difficulty balancing the needs of pvp vs pve game play.
12. As to EVE 'thriving' it isnt. EVE has all the parts to make a game that would attract millions regardless of its cutthroat nature but the game is so poorly managed that it doesnt have the real world currency to enrich either its pve or pvp game playing aspects, both suffer from lack of capital to even cover their basic upkeep let alone enrich either of them to any significant degree. Hence EVE "expansions" that are smaller than most 'patches' to WOW.
Lot of good points here.
One thing that has eluded every programming team that has put together an mmo and blizzard did exceptionally well is spell casting, character control. - you cast a spell in wow it goes off instantly, and they sync that to the server. There is no spell casting lag. It feels seemless and very responsive like you have the server sitting on your LAN.
No other mmo has been able to do that and it is still impressive to me.
It's really to bad cause Rift would be a good game if they used the underlying blizzard model.
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Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 02:00:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:War Craft isn't bad per se. I played for a few years and had a few 85 toons. The problem is that you have to play several hours a day to get the most out of EVE and seeing I don't always have the time for that I stopped playing. You don't have to run dailies in EVE.
I could never do dailies. I just could not run the same quests day after day no matter what it was for. I got by fine without them and I played on and off about 5 years.
Not sure why, but I could play BG's for hours.
Probably the same reason I use to play Unreal Tournament, Enemy Territory, etc for hours at a time, day after day. |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 02:37:00 -
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Terranid Meester wrote:Gerald Sphinx wrote:the vast majority of MMO players are just too soft or weak minded This is why you have happy slappy mmo's around with not a hint of imagination in letting players take control.
This is where number 8 above shines.
8. You will find that the average wow forum poster is more flexible, intelligent and articulate than the idiot lot that tends to post in EVEs forums, i was absolutely stunned by this when i first started reading and posting on the EVE forums.
It is very true.
Elitist Jerks, Tankspot, Wowhead to name a few. There are many.
Eve you get HTFU, GTFO. Intelligence just spews from this place. |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.29 14:54:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I presume he means the element of permanent loss.
Diablo III Hardcore mode, you die, it's game over. |
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